Occupy Wall Street - Yi-tan wiki

Yi-Tan Weekly Tech Call #
348

2011-10-11
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Tuesday
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Apparently, some citizens want change.

Inspired by an AdBusters challenge (itself inspired by Tahrir Square), a smallish crowd met near Wall Street on September 17. After a few weeks, things got interesting, with "Occupy" movements now starting in many cities across the US and abroad.

With Pete Kaminski, Spot and Doug Rushkoff, let's discuss:

Is this movement a threat or a promise? What powers it?
What are its demands? Is it about demands at all?
How connected is this movement to other protests worldwide?
What's the best thing that might happen? The worst?

Some useful sites and stories:

OccupyWallSt.org
Right Here All Over: a short film on Occupy Wall Street
The Anti-Politics of #OccupyWallStreet, by Matt Stoller
Occupied Wall Street, Seen From Abroad in NYTimes
#Occupy Locations (map)
Protesters Against Wall Street, NYTimes editorial
OWS in context, in my Brain
Statement of Solidarity from Chinese Activists and Academics in Support of Occupy Wall Street (original: 支持美国人民伟大的“华尔街革命)
Alan Grayson on Occupy Wall Street, from Real Time with Bill Maher

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Tags:

crisis

community

economics

movements

process

Hosts:

Jerry, Pip,

[10:34am] jonl: My latest take, fwiw: http://weblogsky.com/2011/10/10/what-occupywallstreet-is-about-some-thoughts/ [10:34am] JohnAbbe: ah, that helpful police brutality [10:34am] jonl: Also: http://weblogsky.com/2011/10/03/occupy-clusting-and-coping/ [10:35am] JohnAbbe: ...

Call summary:

Participants:

Charles Knickerbocker

Brynne Thompson

Non-live conversation about Occupy Wall Street (distinct from the live IRC chat during the call, archived above):

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What's the crisis here? (The call is tagged with crisis.)

  --John Abbe.....Sun Oct 09 12:53:30 -0700 2011

The protests have arisen in response to global crisis, John. Doesn't that make sense? Or am I missing your ironic smile?

  --Jerry Michalski.....Mon Oct 10 04:06:53 -0700 2011
what plugin am I missing? It doesn't specify in Opera.
  --radioreview (Not signed in).....Tue Oct 11 10:44:45 -0700 2011
Apologies, radioreview - we are experiencing technical difficulties regarding audio, we'll try to get that fixed soon. This particular call just finished now, so the file won't even be there for a week or so. Earlier calls *may* work for you now, give it a try.
  --John Abbe.....Tue Oct 11 11:41:58 -0700 2011
Jerry - I realized what crisis you were referring to after I wrote that. I guess I tend to think of "crisis" as referring to things that happen faster, in days/weeks, but I think that's just a result of our education system and media tending to focus on those short time frames when relating historical and present events. The slow build-up to the short time scale happenings is under-played.
  --John Abbe.....Tue Oct 11 11:45:18 -0700 2011
In a way you did the same thing on the call when you said that people had "no prior experience" with consensus, when in fact many have a lot of experience from living situations and involvement in earlier movements/actions (I heard some great consensus process stories out of Seattle '99 WTO protests). The "amazing" processes we're watching now are not springing up out of nowhere.
  --John Abbe.....Tue Oct 11 11:47:28 -0700 2011

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